I sent a batch of questions to Iowa poet, writer, and editor Lisa Bradley and she replied yesterday with her answers.
In future posts, I plan to include links to secular organizations helping Iowans and animals recover from the flood, a follow-up discussion on "pests," and perhaps further interviews with Lisa and others. Subjects will include: climate change and rainfall; geography/geology, engineering, and floods; floods and the mosquito population; mosquitoes and the spread of disease; historical and speculative consequences of disease; what has, can, and should be done; collateral damage and how to prevent it. Call it research for mundane SF novels.
I want to thank Lisa again for animating this interview.
What's new?
Our city is still coping with floods that forced 5000 folks out of their homes and bisected the town. Parts of town will likely be under water for weeks to come.
In personal news, this summer I have poetry appearing in Spaceports and Spidersilk and Southern Fried Weirdness. My story "The Evolution of Angels" will appear in an upcoming issue of Oddlands.
When did you become a vegetarian, and why? How did you go about it?
It happened in stages. After adopting my cat, I could no longer rationalize to myself loving an animal I called a "pet" yet eating animals called "dinner." So, in 2002, I gave up red meat and pork for my new year's resolution. I gave up eating mammals first because I felt the most affinity with them. Once that restriction became second nature to me, I scaled back on poultry. (I'd never been a huge fan of fish.) By 2004, even poultry tasted unpleasantly "gamey" to me, but I was pregnant; sometimes my instincts and options overcame my ethics. After my daughter was born, I gave up all birds and fish, but I ate a lot of shrimp--crustaceans are like sea insects, and I don't have a lot of high feelings for bugs. But I got tired of shrimp, and they're creepy-looking anyway, so now I don't eat any animals. I might eat clam chowder, but it's usually prepared with other animal products. I'd love to go vegan--we already use butter, milk, and egg substitutes at home--but I'm not ready to interrogate restaurant chefs about ingredients or hassle my friends about whether there's dairy at the potluck. So I'd just be calling myself a vegan.
How do you support animal rights?
Well, obviously, I'm a vegetarian. I've convinced my husband to give up eating cows and pigs. My daughter eats poultry, but she will probably become vegetarian when she's older. She's already asking the right questions. Our family also tries not to buy leather, wool, or silk.
We adopted a cat from the local shelter, and we'll adopt other animals in the future. We escort most bugs out of our home.
I give money to the ASPCA, Farm Sanctuary, the local animal shelter, and a local pet rescue operation. When I buy Christmas or birthday presents, I look for possibilities at the ASPCA and Farm Sanctuary websites. I've circulated petitions and written letters regarding downed "food animals," horse slaughter, free-range hen eggs, traveling animal shows, and veal in baby food…
I try to see animals in general, and to present them in my writing, whether it's poetry or blog posts. I'm teaching my daughter to see animals also.
How might increasing animal rights affect human society, politics, or the economy?
I'll quibble over the notion of "increasing" animal rights later.
There's a disturbing consonance between the treatment of food animals and the treatment of the employees in the "processing plants" where these animals are slaughtered. Fast Food Nation and Dominion have reported a 100% turnover rate in slaughterhouse staff. No one wants to work there; that should tell us something. Illegal immigrants are recruited to work in these facilities and are then subject to outrageous abuses--awful working conditions, withheld wages, blackmail, rape, orchestrated immigration raids. The callousness that this work requires naturally leads to animal abuse and desensitizes people to the mistreatment of their fellow human beings. If we improve recognition of animal rights, we will raise the bar for recognition of human rights, as well.
"Vertical integration" of farms is eradicating the human element in farming, and the humane element, as well. Most farmers do not want to mistreat their animals, even food animals. But economics--that is, consumer demand (without regard for consequences)--force many farmers to treat animals as products and to incorporate practices contrary to common sense: using animal "byproducts" in herbivores' feed; abusing preventative antibiotics; separating mothers from offspring; sequestering creatures from the light of day; forklifting ill animals into the human food supply… Acknowledging animal rights might put corporate "farms" out of business; it will surely increase the price of meat products. But it will also force us to make the connection between an animal's life and the hamburger on the table, a connection most Americans blissfully ignore.
Concern for the environment and concern for animal rights are natural corollaries. Once we acknowledge that we share this planet with other creatures all intent on fulfilling their destinies just like us, we must address our role as stewards of the earth. And vice versa, if we seek a healthier planet for ourselves and our children, we will end up protecting environments and biodiversity.
What distinguishes humans from other animals?
Perhaps only that we ask these questions and write them down and worry about them. We used to draw the line at "culture," then at "language." But now we know that certain animals develop culture (thanks, EO Wilson) and some can manipulate symbols (apes and dolphins, for examples). "Ethics" might be the new standard, but the line keeps moving. After all, we've seen altruistic, selfish, and thoughtless behaviors on the part of animals we might consider of comparable intelligence to ourselves (thanks, Lyall Watson). Having ethical codes and the will to obey or ignore them…sounds very "human" to me.
Do some animals deserve more rights than others? If so, why?
Deserve is a problematic term, as it can imply an actor who earns and another who rewards. I think we're in a better position to recognize the rights of some creatures than others. We should be able to "let alone" those animals who require large habitats; we have the means to adapt, while they may not. We should be able to work out harmonious arrangements with apes, since we have such insight into what they need to be happy. So-called food animals are already giving their lives to humans; must we torture them, too? It's harder to see how we can respect the needs of smelt, fleas, mosquitoes, and "pests," but [Editors note: I asked Lisa some follow-up questions about the rest of her answer here, which -- as a subscriber to the Hans Zinsser-Jared Diamond school of history -- I find fascinating. And timely! Can humans live "harmoniously" with the carriers of bubonic plague and malaria? How effective are nets and sprays against the spread of disease? What about evolving resistance to pesticides? Collateral damage from pesticide use and the draining of wetlands? How much risk do mosquitoes pose to post-flood Iowans? And what can we do? We'll take this up again in another post, and perhaps further interviews.]
What should be done about animals that threaten humans or livestock?
We have to ask ourselves, What is a threat? What is the magnitude of the threat? Is it an imminent threat? If the threat is to property, what might be just compensation? How can we buffer ourselves from such threats? We don't need to martyr ourselves or the animals. "Us versus them" is such an outdated mentality. We need to aim for win-win solutions.
How might SPCA views of birth control and euthanasia for cats and dogs apply to humans?
They don't. But similar ethical considerations might inform our decisions about humans who are not in the position to make life-and-death choices themselves. Determining which individuals are in need of such stewardship, and who should steward them, is preliminary to making such decisions. Not all animal rights activists agree with the ASPCA's stances on population control and animal guardianship. It won't be any easier to conjure consensus regarding humans.
Why do you think there's so much anthropomorphic art and literature for children?
Many, many reasons! The first that comes to mind is that children are acted upon and projected upon by adults, just as animals are. Neither children nor domesticated animals are in control of their own bodies or actions or "meanings"; they are at the mercy of (usually well-meaning) human adults. Many human parents are under the impression that their young children can be made into their image, and that pets can be forced into an easy family lifestyle, when in reality both children and animals come with their own instincts, interests, and temperaments that should be accommodated as much as possible. Children see they share this inherent injustice, so they readily identify with animals.
Also, children recognize that they are developing skills shared by other animals, whereas adults would prefer to ignore our commonalities with the animal world. Children spend less time in unnatural human-only settings, more time in nature, even if it's only the backyard or park.
Portraying animals is also obviously a way of postponing long overdue questions about race in children's literature. If the main character is white, the dominant paradigm marches on. If the main character is not white, the material becomes a book about/for diversity, or the creators are harangued for their choices (Ezra Jack Keats). If the main character is an animal, critics are chided for injecting race into the matter and it's business as usual.
Animals are also cute and cool and fun and humans have a natural tendency to put words in their mouths. Witness lolcats!
How can art and literature affect the way humans view and treat animals?
Personally, I feel more integrated with reality when I partake of art that includes animals. Such art and literature confirms my sense of my place in the world. The more of it I live with, the harder it is for me to ignore my connections with the earth and the critters on it. I would hope other people feel the same.
Is there anything you'd like to add?
No, I've talked too much already!